Comments on: ‘burbs REDUXED http://www.re-burbia.com/2009/08/05/burbs-reduxed/ A Suburban Design Competition Fri, 16 Jul 2010 04:02:26 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: dennymack http://www.re-burbia.com/2009/08/05/burbs-reduxed/#comment-1490 dennymack Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:46:58 +0000 http://www.re-burbia.com/?p=2391#comment-1490 You are creating a new category in housing: Coercive housing. The only way to get people to live this way is to force it on them. As an experiment, show this to some suburban neighborhood residents. Not other students in your sustainability class at Urban University, and not that cool chick who you met at New Leaf. Real people who are raising kids in suburbia, also known as the majority of America. Tell them it is up for permitting, and ask for comments. When their ire starts to frighten you, clearly distance yourself from the design, and tell them you will make sure the planning department hears their voice. Then leave- quickly. You want to "fix" suburbia by taking away all the things people love about it. Please don't pretend this is all about the environment. Studies on the impact of density are pretty ambiguous. (see http://www.american.com/archive/2010/january/the-war-against-suburbia) Also, did the designer ever question whether or not people want to live in a hallway with traffic running underneath? You are creating a new category in housing: Coercive housing. The only way to get people to live this way is to force it on them.

As an experiment, show this to some suburban neighborhood residents. Not other students in your sustainability class at Urban University, and not that cool chick who you met at New Leaf. Real people who are raising kids in suburbia, also known as the majority of America. Tell them it is up for permitting, and ask for comments.

When their ire starts to frighten you, clearly distance yourself from the design, and tell them you will make sure the planning department hears their voice. Then leave- quickly.

You want to “fix” suburbia by taking away all the things people love about it. Please don’t pretend this is all about the environment. Studies on the impact of density are pretty ambiguous. (see http://www.american.com/archive/2010/january/the-war-against-suburbia)

Also, did the designer ever question whether or not people want to live in a hallway with traffic running underneath?

]]> By: lee http://www.re-burbia.com/2009/08/05/burbs-reduxed/#comment-1480 lee Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:55:23 +0000 http://www.re-burbia.com/?p=2391#comment-1480 interesting but not gonna happen interesting but not gonna happen

]]> By: andy http://www.re-burbia.com/2009/08/05/burbs-reduxed/#comment-1439 andy Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:06:20 +0000 http://www.re-burbia.com/?p=2391#comment-1439 this is garbage. you really took the idea of the suburb and turned it on its head. or just hit Ctrl+I in suburb photoshop. in 2030 all you have is a sprawling city squeezed into capillaries not arteries. this is garbage. you really took the idea of the suburb and turned it on its head. or just hit Ctrl+I in suburb photoshop. in 2030 all you have is a sprawling city squeezed into capillaries not arteries.

]]> By: green.minute http://www.re-burbia.com/2009/08/05/burbs-reduxed/#comment-1204 green.minute Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:30:40 +0000 http://www.re-burbia.com/?p=2391#comment-1204 The comments here show the ignorance of American people and the general conservative mindset, a sign that should tell you that there is no real chance for a real progressive redesign of American suburbs. In my opinion this design and the futuristic airbia design both are the only designs that truly understand the concept of reburbia- which means a complete reconceptualization of suburbs. That includes a complete destruction of suburbs as they exist today. Why otherwise participate in this competition if you're not going to think outside the box. It is obvious that the current status quo is unsustainable and unworkable. Suburbs have to be completely rethought. You can fill them with trees, ponds, frogs, etc. but that will not change anything. In order to find a sustainable and workable solution, there will have to be sacrifices made. In America a sacrifice is too much to ask for even if it is for the greater good of all and our planet. Not gonna happen. Sigh. The comments here show the ignorance of American people and the general conservative mindset, a sign that should tell you that there is no real chance for a real progressive redesign of American suburbs.
In my opinion this design and the futuristic airbia design both are the only designs that truly understand the concept of reburbia- which means a complete reconceptualization of suburbs. That includes a complete destruction of suburbs as they exist today. Why otherwise participate in this competition if you’re not going to think outside the box.
It is obvious that the current status quo is unsustainable and unworkable. Suburbs have to be completely rethought.
You can fill them with trees, ponds, frogs, etc. but that will not change anything.
In order to find a sustainable and workable solution, there will have to be sacrifices made. In America a sacrifice is too much to ask for even if it is for the greater good of all and our planet.
Not gonna happen. Sigh.

]]> By: cns http://www.re-burbia.com/2009/08/05/burbs-reduxed/#comment-1159 cns Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:41:14 +0000 http://www.re-burbia.com/?p=2391#comment-1159 Not great, but better than most of the rest. Not great, but better than most of the rest.

]]> By: Laurie Manny http://www.re-burbia.com/2009/08/05/burbs-reduxed/#comment-1139 Laurie Manny Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:21:04 +0000 http://www.re-burbia.com/?p=2391#comment-1139 Ugh...........where do I start with what is wrong with this idea? Most important is that homeowners own the space under their homes to the center of the earth projecting up and into space. Cutting off the sun? Its just plain ugly as sin!' It conjests already conjested suburbs further. Don't see additional roadways to handle the expanded demographics...... Do I need to continue? Ugh………..where do I start with what is wrong with this idea?

Most important is that homeowners own the space under their homes to the center of the earth projecting up and into space.

Cutting off the sun?

Its just plain ugly as sin!’

It conjests already conjested suburbs further.

Don’t see additional roadways to handle the expanded demographics……

Do I need to continue?

]]> By: Munkee http://www.re-burbia.com/2009/08/05/burbs-reduxed/#comment-1125 Munkee Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:13:33 +0000 http://www.re-burbia.com/?p=2391#comment-1125 What home owner would want new residents parked right above them in basically an apartment? While I like the idea of increasing density, no homeowner or neighborhood would desire –much less allow – something like this. Property values = fail. What home owner would want new residents parked right above them in basically an apartment? While I like the idea of increasing density, no homeowner or neighborhood would desire –much less allow – something like this.

Property values = fail.

]]> By: Ileana Pita http://www.re-burbia.com/2009/08/05/burbs-reduxed/#comment-1099 Ileana Pita Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:01:35 +0000 http://www.re-burbia.com/?p=2391#comment-1099 Introducing more housing is not soving the problem... try incorparating the other aspects of daily life... Oh, and by the way, Reducing Density is not Green¡! Introducing more housing is not soving the problem… try incorparating the other aspects of daily life… Oh, and by the way, Reducing Density is not Green¡!

]]> By: Lynn http://www.re-burbia.com/2009/08/05/burbs-reduxed/#comment-1022 Lynn Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:41:02 +0000 http://www.re-burbia.com/?p=2391#comment-1022 No,no,no. Blocking sun, having things above on metal stilts like elevated trains, no easy access from one house to another on another level. Just a more complicated system to take down later. No grace, no likie. No,no,no. Blocking sun, having things above on metal stilts like elevated trains, no easy access from one house to another on another level. Just a more complicated system to take down later. No grace, no likie.

]]> By: yes http://www.re-burbia.com/2009/08/05/burbs-reduxed/#comment-1011 yes Sun, 16 Aug 2009 19:49:53 +0000 http://www.re-burbia.com/?p=2391#comment-1011 Fun thought. But these dwellings are very similar to regular apartments, why live far away from work and services? Also i think the park you are imagining are never going to bee created. And even if so, doesent it actualy decrease the density of the suburb rather than increasing it that your initial goal was? Fun thought. But these dwellings are very similar to regular apartments, why live far away from work and services? Also i think the park you are imagining are never going to bee created. And even if so, doesent it actualy decrease the density of the suburb rather than increasing it that your initial goal was?

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